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The
information presented here is both actual facts of his dealings
with Wachovia, and personal opinion of the author of this site,
Stephen Woodin
or people who have sent me their opinion to be posted on this site.
The purpose of this site is to inform & educate as to the policies
and possible treatment to anyone who banks with Wachovia Bank, N.A.
If the facts listed here can happen to me, a BUSINESS customer with
deposits of over $5000 per month or more for more than 6 years,
then it CAN happen to you! Regardless of what they claim, their
treatment of customers is the worst I have ever seen. I make it
my mission today forward to tell EVERYONE I contact to BE WARY of
Wachovia Bank, N.A.! |
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I
have created this site, to WARN everyone of the injustice that has
happened to me, "the little guy". As I live and breath,
I will NOT deposit another dollar into Wachovia and I hope that
anyone who is considering starting an account with WACHOVIA to BE
WARNED!
I will keep this site up as long as it takes to get Wachovia Bank,
N.A. to change their policies and make things "right"
with me. This site is my opinion and facts of what has happened
to me and my business account(s) leading up to the closing of my
account(s).
In the business
I am in, I speak to a lot of other business owners, and will warn
them, and my clients, to find a suitable alternative, another bank,
credit union, or other means to run your business. I am fed up,
and will not take it anymore. If you have a story of how you were
wronged by Wachovia, please submit it to me at swoodin@wachoviabank-sucks.com
and I will put your story out there for free so you also can tell
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We had 3 or 4 accounts with Wachovia including a money market
account, with total balance about $125,000. The service on the
money market account got pitiful anyhow. They decided to only
send statement to people with bigger balances than ours, but
no-one would or could tell us why we were not getting statements
any longer. It wasn't even really possible to get our phone
calls returned. $100K is not enough to impress them. That's
not even the major suck reason. My
son was in the Army. Prior to enlisting he had an account with
Wachovia with most of his bills being paid automatically. He
switched to the Credit Union at MacDill and did what he thought
was necessary to switch his automatic payments. Then he closed
the Wachovia account. Some of the automatic payments continued
to be issued to his supposedly closed Wachovia account. Wachovia
honored those payments and charged fees for overdrafts and for
insufficient balance. The total damages was about $1300. Then
they took the money from OUR account, saying they had a right
to do it. My question to them was "why honor the overdrafts?"
but it's pointless talking to them. We closed our accounts and
took our money elsewhere. wachovia can kiss my ass.
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I
am sitting here at work in Houston, TX after dealing with Wachovia
all morning long. I called back home to my parents in St. Pete
to tell them about what happened and my dad told me about your
site. I am so glad to know that I am not the only one this is
happening to. On Friday 10/13/06, I made a deposit at the ATM
for around $708.00, this included my payroll check of $693 and
two small checks people had wrote out to me. Well Saturday morning
all my funds were in my account so I began to use my debit card
just like any other day. I come in to work this morning Tuesday
10/17/06 and my account is in the negative by $701.08. I very
quickly called the 800 # and was told that my payroll check
was put on hold until the 18th when it cleared. I was then charged
overdraft fees totaling to $175.00 due to the transactions that
I made over the weekend. When I explained to her the money was
in there Saturday morning she said it "really" wasn't
in there. I was so IRATE that I went to my local branch and
spoke to the branch manager and she told me that I needed to
have more money if I was worried about that stuff like that
and that there was nothing she could do. I am so upset as I
do not get paid again until the 31st. I asked her if she would
back out the charges since it is really the banks fault. She
told me no because that is only a curtosey they do for customers
who have had their accounts longer than 6 months. I believe
if they do not want to clear you deposits through the ATM immediately
then do not make the funds available until that time, not the
next day then back them out and charge you TONS of fees. I really
truly hope that your site and story make some kind of impact
on the bank. Thank You-ND
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Dear
Little guy, I too have been screwed by Wachovia. I don’t
know by how many thousands over the years, it would be difficult
to add it up. A few months ago, a Wachovia VISA transaction
was posted to my account twice. I didn’t notice this for
a while because VISA transactions are on hold for a few business
days. This time, by chance was a weekend and holiday of some
sort, so it was on hold for about 6 days. During the time this
dual debit was on hold, I made over 35 transactions between
my debit card and bill pay. By the time I noticed the problem,
my account was over 1,000 in the red. Once the problem was reported
to Wachovia and the company I had made the original VISA purchase
from it took two weeks to resolve. The resolution? No one knows
why my account was hit with a double transaction. The great
Wachovia agreed to credit my account with one of the transactions,
but no fee refunds since they do not believe they were the cause
the double transaction. During the two weeks that it took Wachovia
to come to this conclusion, several more debits hit my account
from various auto payments I have set up. When all was said
and done, my negative balance exceeded my next paycheck. Any
idea how steamed I was? I can’t express it. I don’t
know why I didn’t close my account and move on to a better
bank, I guess I’m a gluten for punishment. I
got really screwed last week by Wachovia’s reordering
of debits against the account. I made an accounting error and
over drew a single transaction before a deposit cleared. But
by reordering the days transactions, putting the largest debits
first, Wachovia was able to get 9 NSF fees out of me for transactions
under five dollars. After the reordering and the NSF’s,
they put my deposit through. The deposit wasn’t enough
to cover the NSF fees, so my account was still negative. Of
course I didn’t notice this until I check my account online
the next evening after I had made another 10 debit card purchases.
The Customer Service folks at the bank refuse to give back a
dime so my account sits at a negative balance until I get paid
next Friday. Thank
God my wife and I have never gotten around to merging our bank
accounts after getting married. I took a few bucks out of her
account and opened a new account at WAMU. I’ve put in
to have my checks deposited there and am trying to move everything
over to that as fast as possible. I guess I’ll have to
bite the bullet and pay off the negative balance at Wachovia
so I can close the account. Until then, I’m trying to
think of a grand way to make my exit. Keep
up the Good fight. I’m with you brother.-
RM
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Well
you go boy!!! Good for you for standing up to this Bank.. I
loved the site!!! It's all soooo true!! My husband saw your
write up in the TBT and brought it home for me to read.. It
reminded him of an experience I had with them as well.. I had
$300.00 worth the bounced fees.. Why??? Only Wachovia knows..
Friday night I checked my balance online and it was what I thought
it was $56.00.. My husband and I had a hectic week so neither
of us got are checks deposited until late.. So we had $56.00
dollars to live on thru the weekend.. I made several small purchases
with the first 30 dollars and then I remember going to the gas
pump and hubby pumping gas.. He accidently started putting super
unleaded in my truck.. after 19 cents worth he shut off the
pump and began filling it with regular. The pump shut off at
26 bucks since my account was then drained.. ok I knew I was
outta money.. Monday morning a check went thru my account..
Ohh noo.. well instead of just bouncing the check as they should
have "They bounced everything" (including the 19 cents
worth the gas..) It racked up to 300.00 worth the fees.. Remember
if I went to a teller on Friday she would of given me the $56.00
and the only thing that would of bounced was the check... But
since I used the debit card... Wachovia claims they don't post
to your account right away and the biggest purchase goes thru
first which was the check.. I yelled and yelled but it got me
no where.. But I give it to you for doing what your doing!!
Keep up the good work.. Dana Brozik / Spring Hill, Fl
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I
too am a business owner who is experiencing the same problem.
I made a deposit in the ATM on October 11- a large amount, and
am still fighting to get that money released. I was NEVER told
the funds would be held- not by the ATM's notification screen
or the teller that suggested I deposit it into the ATM!!! I
now have returned checks to several vendors, government offices,
etc. who now will never take another check from my company.
Who can do business that way? This large corporation (Wachovia)
really is ruing things for the "small guy." Good luck
to you getting your funds back. I have to now fight the same
battle.....
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I
read on your site that an attorney from the Tampa area had contacted
you about possibly litigating your issue. I am actually an attorney
myself, but I was only admitted to the bar a year ago. I was
wondering if you might ask the attorney who contacted you if
I might get in touch with him/her. I, too, have a serious dilemma
with the way in which Wachovia does business. Here's the situation...sometimes
around October 5th I used my debit card two too many times and
ended up with a negative available balance due to a couple of
holds. Before these holding transactions were completed, I deposited
my payroll check and I assumed everything was okay. However,
the next week when I looked at my account, it said I had been
charged $70 in "unavailable funds fees." This, of
course, caused me to overdraw (and rack up more fees) due to
scheduled payments that would have been covered, had that charge
not occurred. According to the less than helpful people at 800-WACHOVIA,
this was because technically I overdrew my account, even though
at no point had I ACTUALLY overdrawn. My posted balance remained
positive the entire time. To make sure I had the situation straight,
I posed this hypothetical to the "telephone banking associate",....."Say
I have $50 in my account and I make a purchase for $40. If a
mistake is made and $70 is charged to my account but a correction
is also made afterward for the accurate total, I will receive
an unavailable funds charge, right?" His answer was "Yes,
and then you should call the bank so we can refund the fee."
So it also stands to reason that if I make a purchase at a gas
station or restaurant where the merchant often authorizes more
than will actually go through( e.g. I have $20 bucks in my account
and want to get $10 worth of gas, but the gas station authorizes
$50), and that causes my available balance to go negative, I
will again receive a charge. Now I'm so pissed that I'm ready
to see if I can get people together for a class action (or something)
against Wachovia because I know of no other large bank that
does this and it seems like there MUST be some aspect of the
law under which this is not allowed. I completely feel your
pain, Attorney RD
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"Much
like a poster you had on 10/14/06, I had a problem with Wachovia
credit cards. I have been a customer of theirs for many years
and a card holder for at least two years. I have not paid my
bills late, nor missed a payment. Without notice or warning
my credit card rate jumped from 13.52% to 25.24% and the structure
and look of my bill changed. I contacted Wachovia and they said
they had mailed me some sort of notice in June about the switch
over, and that my credit card was actually held by another company.
They said that company had reassessed my standing and determined
I should have a higher rate. The woman I talked to admitted
that I had done nothing to received the higher rate. She stated
that I had not paid the bill late, or missed a payment, and
that it was because I had maintained the same balance for a
set amount of time. She also admitted my credit rating was high
and did not warrant the percentage increase. I asked Wachovia
to return the difference between the 13% and 25% that I had
been charged but they refused. I have now sent a letter to the
Better Business Bureau and am awaiting a reply. I am very angry
about what has happened and will take every avenue available
to get my money back. I am not rich, but I do keep my bills
paid! If anyone else has had a similar experience please post
your problem here. I will be canceling my Wachovia account within
the next six months and I will cite your website as a reason
in my decision. I will also send an update when I get the results
from the Better Business Bureau. Jason C.
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I
am not currently a Wachovia customer. I have however been thinking
of switching over to them. Thanks for your story. I will definitely
steer clear of them. Stephen Briggs
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A
moving company used my check card number and withdrew 1,300.00
from my account without my knowledge, I disputed the transaction
while it was in processing, Wachovia went ahead with the transaction
3 days later and their response was it's to late now you need
to contact the merchant. Now i have a trial date for Nov. 2nd
I'm prosecuting merchant for fraud. If the bank had stopped
transaction like i asked i would not have to be going through
the expense of all this. I closed all accounts with Wachovia.-No
name, via email
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What
a PITA (PITA=Pain in the ass) this bank is eh? I scrolled down
to the bottom of your page and almost puked when I saw that
you'd said they used to be Barnett Bank. They really screwed
me over when they were Barnett. I would deposit my paychecks
on Friday (sometimes before, sometimes after) 2, yet the bank
would not credit them to my account until Tuesday causing any
checks I wrote over the weekend to bounce. Even though the signs
on the counter said, "All deposits made after 2 p.m. will
be deposited the following business day." No one could
tell me why the money didn't go in on Monday. It was a business
day was it not? Yes, but apparently they didn't count it as
one even though they were OPEN FOR BUSINESS and paying employees
to conduct BUSINESS, and doing BUSINESS with customers. No one
could explain it. I came in the next day and took a picture
of the sign on the counter. The cashiers got upset, called a
manager over and acted like I was a terrorist or something.
I got the feeling they all would have liked to try taking me
down. I informed the manager that I would be promptly closing
my account after they returned the bounced check fees which
would be done on the spot else I would have an attorney contact
them. BTW the amount they tried to get me for was 6 overdraft
fees in one day due to this whole thing. I got it all back,
and they did close the account that day. So it doesn't surprise
me at all that this bank stemmed from Barnett. I currently have
a Wachovia account (too bad- had I realized they were once Barnett....)
and not surprisingly, they have pissed me off with a bounced
check fee. I had over $40 in the account. It had no outstanding
ATM uses or checks. I hadn't used the account in over a month.
I wrote my daughter's school a check for $30 and guess what.
They bounced it. Couldn't explain why, or where the other $10
went. Just gone. They won't fix it, so I am closing the account.
Best of luck, sorry for the long sob story!-K
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i have been a wachovia visa customer since 1985 and have always
had good credit. recently my monthly statement included an "amendment"
that i actually read instead of discarding. the amendment stated
that unless i disagreed by written notification (phone calls
are unacceptable) before my october 2006 closing date, my interest
rate would jump from 17.99% to 23.99%! i immediately called
wachovia and asked why they were changing my interest rate.
i was told that although i always paid on time and had a good
history with wachovia, my debt to income ratio was high (i own
my own business). there was another caveat. if after submitting
my objection in writing to the higher interest rate, i ever
had another charge on my card after the october 2006 closing
date, my account would automatically default to the higher 23.99%
rate increase! i told the customer service rep, "so basically,
i might as well close my account". his reply was, "basically,
yes". i will never do business with wachovia in the future
and they continue to mail me pre-approved credit offers every
week - for my business no less. i agree that wachovia treats
their customers poorly.-HR
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Comments
that I received from people after the newspaper
article yesterday, all are posted with permission. Some have
chosen the only identify themselves with their initials:
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I
heard about your story on the radio early this morning and read
it in tbt. Tampa Attorney Wants to help...
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have not been wronged by Wachovia, but am so sick and tired of
huge corporations screwing people.They spend hundreds of millions
to get your business, and then when they have it, treat you like
dirt. I'd love to see a huge revolt in this country against these
goliaths, and urge everyone to support small businesses even if
it costs you a few dollars more. If we do not stand up to these
corporations, then we are responsible for dealing our and our
kids futures away to these greedy, monopolistic, communist-like
regimes. Our government certainly does not help, standing side
by side with these monopolies. I applaud you for standing up for
what is right. I'd love to see about 100-million other Americans
doing the same. Stephen, thanks for the note. Sure, print my name,
I am not bashful. I hope the story in the paper this morning gets
you some satisfaction, and again, thanks for standing up to these
wicked corporations.
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the "for-what-it's-worth" department, one of my co-workers
hails from South Carolina, home state for Wachovia and she tells
us they are affectionately referred to as "Walkallovia"
by the folks up there. Fight the good fight and hang in there.
Jerry Frissell
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Keep
up the good work. My bet is on you. These big companies think
they always have the ball in their court. I wish I had the guts
you do. They all want to hold your money and get their bucks
before you can use it. This is a crime against the general public.
God speed Donna
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Good
luck to you and your quest. This sounds like total BS to me
and those corporate policy shmucks need to get a grip and do
the right thing. Having worked a a large bank at one time, I
know how inflexible they can be. Beat em down, they will cave.
Brad
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Mr.
Woodin, I too am a small business owner in much the same situation
you are, my bank however, is Amsouth and they are doing the
exact same thing. This is a scam all banks subscribe to in an
effort to steal money from the customers they pretend to value.
I am taking your cue and I will do the as much of the same thing
to Amsouth as you are to Wachovia. Hopefully the voices of the
small will prevail. A.K.
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Steve,
I love the site man! Screw the people who say "your responsible
for your account" and other crap like that, there probably
people from the bank anyway. The fact is, and I'm sure I'm not
telling you anything you don't know, This is how they make their
money. Charging outrageous fee's to us shmoes. I'd like them
to tell me what costs them $33.00 in the process of returning
a check, especially since it's all done by computer. And hey,
while their at it, maybe they can explain why they "Hold"
deposit checks since check 21 was instituted. The answer they
won't give you is that the money sits in the bank and earns
them money for a few days. Gotta love those SOB's. Dude, hang
in there. I'm gonna write a letter to Wachovia myself, and post
a link to your site on the community web site I webmaster. www.chapelpines.net
David Soskin
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Steve, saw the article in the business section today and immediately
logged on. Why? Because a very similar thing happened to me
(I’m sure you’ve heard this before). My story is
different; I had my wallet and checkbook stolen and even though
I knew this within hours and did all of the things people are
taught to do (stop payments, cancelled cards, etc) I received
in inordinate number of fees from Wachovia due to the fraudulent
transactions. After a grace period where they were understanding
and cooperative, I fell into a cycle when the fraudulent checks
started pouring in where not only was I initially debited the
fee for the checks (since they were passed fraudulently and
my credit was not yet ruined from this action) but of course
charged fees for them bouncing out of the account that Wachovia
closed on purpose! Of course, that’s just the tip of the
iceberg. I, like you had written real checks, and even though
I informed all the creditors I could think of, some slipped
through the cracks, including my power bill. Now, even though
I can prove everything was fraudulent (the guy who stole my
stuff was apprehended and is in jail) I must pay my power bill
in cash and I can’t write a check nearly anywhere because
I’m in the national database of bad check writers (I’m
sure there’s an official name for this- this guy passed
the bad checks only to Publix and Wal-Mart- and of course Wal-Mart
is still after “me” even though they’ve been
informed otherwise). Anyway, kudos to you for your efforts.
Believe me, I feel your pain…-Steven Levy
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Great
story! I too bank at Wachovia, had a similar incident about
5 years back, same type of teller trying to figure out why my
deposit was "gone". Fortunately, I found it (the wrong
balance) before writing any checks - raised holy hell and got
it put back. But here's my question that has irked me for years
and in light of the publicity you are getting, supposing this
might start (hopefully for you) some changes, perhaps this can
work into some kind of reform. At times, I've often thought
it was class action suit worthy... Wachovia's policy, and most
other banks as far as I can tell, is to pay the "highest
check first" out of your account, should more than one
come in on that day. When I once questioned this, they said,
"We assume that the higher the check, the more important
it is..". Why do they get to assume what is important with
my money? But, for someone like me who runs a very close balance,
that means if I have $100 in my account and 3 checks come in
- one for $105, one for $10 and one for $5 - they will pay the
$105, charge me $35 then pay or bounce the other two at another
$35 a pop - netting them $105. Why not pay the two little ones
and then charge or bounce the larger one?? I can't tell you
how many times this has happened to me. And from a logical standpoint,
it just doesn't make sense. Pay what you can, hell pay in check
# order, pay any way BUT the way they do it which is obviosly
designed only to maximize their fees. Anyway, I know it is not
totally related to your incident but I thought I'd throw it
out there in case you got a bandwagon of reform rolling from
the St. Pete Time's article this morning. Good luck! Sue Rodenbeck
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have not been wronged by Wachovia, but am so sick and tired
of huge corporations screwing people.They spend hundreds of
millions to get your business, and then when they have it, treat
you like dirt. I'd love to see a huge revolt in this country
against these goliaths, and urge everyone to support small businesses
even if it costs you a few dollars more. If we do not stand
up to these corporations, then we are responsible for dealing
our and our kids futures away to these greedy, monopolistic,
communist-like regimes. Our government certainly does not help,
standing side by side with these monopolies. I applaud you for
standing up for what is right. I'd love to see about 100-million
other Americans doing the same. Jeff Francis St. Petersburg,
Florida.
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I
have been going thru a similar problem with Wachovia I guess
in the last 3 months I have about 3000 in nsf charges. I have
3 direct deposits going into my account yesterday was a deposit
day they returned a payment to the electric company yesterday
after my automatic deposit was made but they still charged me
35 dollars it doesn't make since to me either but when I go
into the bank they tell me what amounts to that just to bad
for you alan*****@aol.com
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For
what its worth, after reading your saga , I wouldn't bank with
Wachovia even if they were offering 5 year CD's @ 10% APR! You,
Sir, are and inspiration of which I may soon make use of myself
in my own dispute with LG HI-MACS Counter Tops. Seems our dialogue
has run into a brick wall. Another Goliath. Dave Niemuth, R.PH.
New Port Richey, Fl.
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Hi
Steve! I saw your article in TBT today. I applaud you! I'm glad
you are standing up to the banks! I'm sure other banks do the
same thing as well. I don't have a story worth writing, but
here is something I just don't get, and I just needed to say.
We are in the age of computers! There is NO NEED TO HOLD A CHECK
that has been deposited. I'll give a little if you deposit it
the night before or over the weekend. But as soon as the next
day comes and the bank people process the check, your funds
should be there ASAP! And if a check is no good, then you should
get a phone call! What is with the HOLDING A CHECK!?!?! What
do these bank people do while they are holding your check??
Looking at it!?!? Can't be used as a paper weight! So why HOLD
it!?!?! Processing should be a snap with a computer. Go Figure!
My husband and I have a business too. We can't wait for the
banks to hold our checks. It's a hassle, but we go right up
to the bank and cash the check and then deposit the money into
our account. It sucks to run around like that because we don't
want to wait the 7 to 10 business days for it to clear! I'd
still like to know what they do during those 7 to 10 business
days!! It's so easy these days to take out, but to put back
in is a no no. I hope you get your money back!! They know they
are in the wrong....they won't admit it! Good Luck again to
you!! Thanks for letting me vent! Karen
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Man
I got the hell out of that bank to they did the same thing to
me I ended up oweing 502 dollars for mistakes that they did
also I wrote a check one time and they never put it through
ended up costing me 800 dollars in late fees on my rent Mike
Esposito InterviewUSA
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In
the "for-what-it's-worth" department, one of my co-workers
hails from South Carolina, home state for Wachovia and she tells
us they are affectionately referred to as "Walkallovia"
by the folks up there. Fight the good fight and hang in there.
Jerry Frissell
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Last
year I had a similar problem with that joke of a company. They
actually tried to hold my PAYCHECK for 10 days. It got so ridiculous
that the HR department from my work, myself, and Wachovia had
to do a three way call to straighten the mess out. The HR department
from my work could not believe that a payroll check could legally
be held for 10 days. The customer service rep claimed it was
common (yeah right) and a lengthy argument ensued. Eventually
Wachovia broke and allowed (how nice of them) my work to wire
my check into the account. It is unreal that a bank would hold
my damn paycheck. Was I supposed to call my creditors and tell
them that I will be late on my payments this month because my
bank won’t let me deposit what I work for? Within a week
I had closed out my account and switched over to Achieva Credit
Union. MUCH better. I’ll never use a regular bank again.
Keep up what you are doing, don’t get discouraged by any
setbacks and let’s hope they get what they deserve. Dave
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A
similar thing happened to me when I was up in Indiana, selling
my home and moving down to Florida perminently. I was investigating
an online site. They requested a local bank account number to
make an offer on a house I was interested in, here in Saint
Petersburg. Before leaving, I cleared out my account here and
deposited it in my Indiana savings union account, except for
99 cents. In order to verify the account the Realtor, unbeknownst
to me, made a $1.00 charge to my account. And Immediately made
a $1.00 credit. Because the $1.00 charge did not go thru, they
tried it two more times. For which I received three $35.00 NSF
fees. And because I was not getting my forwarded mail (another
story), they closed my account and charged me another $70.00.
Because no other bank in Florida will allow you to open an account
with this hanging over you, I had to pay them off to open an
account elsewhere. No one there cared or wanted to make this
right. Now I have a new bank, and a different realtor, and a
new house. All of my friends and relatives have left Wachovia
for this reason. K.W., St. Petersburg
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Steve,
I am certainly interested in a shirt should you have enough
interest. Love the representation you have shown. Short, simple
but sweet! Saw your story in the paper today and have been riveted
to your web-site since reading the article. While I am not a
Wachovia customer, I certainly believe in your cause and wish
you the best! Keep up the good work and I will continue to monitor
your website daily. Darlene
The graphic that Darlene is referring to is below, shirts
will be available if there is demand. Contact
me with your shirt size L or XL adult. Cost will be determined
soon:
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Every
time I go cash my paycheck it cost me $5. It's a Wachovia check
from a Wachovia customer. Of course they're not the only ones
that do that. I use to live in an Oxford House (www.oxfordhouse.org)
and we used signature cards for two people at any given time
to cash/write checks for the house expenses. Wachovia never
honored them. Finally one guy embezzled a pile of cash with
a forged signature that looked nothing like the real one. Yes,
Wachovia sucks... Your site will be listed here: http://www.yourfreespace.net/users/sungraffix/tampa/GoodAndBad/ProsAndCons.htm#NOT
when I get around to it. R. Heston
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I
understand your frustration with Wachovia Bank, NA. I have two
issues with them and they are still festering. First: When I
moved to FL in 2001 I opened a checking/savings account with
then Southtrust Bank. I really liked Southtrust...the people
remembered your names, your kids names, etc. It really had a
small town feel to a large bank. Shortly after this, my wife
and I began the process of buying our home here in FL and were
pointed to First Union Bank. Another bank I liked. Small and
efficient yet large enough to meet our families growing needs.
When First Union mortgaged our house, I opened a "totally
free" checking account and savings account. About a year
or so after moving into our home, First Union "merged",
(and I used the term lightly), with Wachovia. It has been a
nightmare ever since. Lost checks, electronic payments taken
out twice, some of the rudest employees I have ever had the
misfortune of meeting and on and on and on. Anyway, about a
month or two after the "merger", my checking and savings
accounts were closed by Wachovia...why? Because of this. After
moving my money out of Wachovia and into my Southtrust accounts,
(I left about a $5 balance in the checking account and a $5
balance in the savings account), Wachovia hit me for a $20 "fee"
for having the account which placed the account in the red,
when this happened, they hit me for a $30 NSF fee because I
didn't have the $20 in the account to cover the fee. So, $5
- 20= $-15 - $30 NSF fee = $-45, right? Well, they must have
taken a different math class because they claim the account
was a $-55. The savings account was also closed and I was never
given, to this date, an accounting of that money! So, I ask
Wachovia why the account was closed...(mind you, no notice,
no warning given, just done)...and they said it was because
my account was NSF'd by their fee's - something about that automatically
closes the account - and I asked them "What fee's? This
is a "totally free" checking account. Totally free
means no fee's. They said nope. To this date, despite Wachovia
sicking a collection agency(ies) on me, I have refused to pay
them anything on this so called "delinquent" account!
But what was I to worry - I had Southtrust Bank as my "home"
bank. Well, we all know what happened there! All I would say
to someone looking to buy a home with financing through Wachovia:
If you can get a home financed do it through ANYONE and I mean
ANYONE other than Wachovia, than do it! (I don't care if it's
a loan shark named Tony with an Uncle Vinny from Sicily; he's
more tolerant than Wachovia and easier to get along with!) Thank
God for Bank of America! E. Johnson
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...You
have "kahoonies" my friend. It's a shame Wachovia
is putting you through such crap but it could almost be expected.
The way things are done in banking today is a testament to "progress"
in the form of computerized banking, online billpaying, online
purchases, etc, etc, etc. Banking online is not too different
from the "chat rooms" that are so notorious today
as the means that some perverted individuals are using to take
advantage of our kids these days. It's the anonymous nature
of the medium that allows that to happen. Well banking is no
different in my eyes. The people who are responsible for handling
your funds and accounts can be as anonymous as the "perverts"
are to our kids. They strike and run without those being affected
ever knowing who the bad guys are or why they are doing the
injustice. Just like the "Bank"...someone there knows
full well that an "injustice" was done...they are
however "anonymous" and apparently wish to remain
as such...after all...it might affect someone's "bonus'
or position in the company or merely their stature in the eyes
of their peers. Stick to it my friend...you can be sure Wachovia
won't be getting any business from me...Good Luck. Darryl S
Hudson, Florida
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Steve,
I have one word that I think describes your crusade....AWESOME!!!
Thanks for sticking it to them. I had a similar situation happen
to me a couple of years ago when I was in school. My mom was
helping me pay for school and basically survive while I was
in school and she would send me money to pay for school and
bills. At the time I had an account with Wachovia, so I deposited
the check and after checking my account balance, by calling
in and at an atm machine, it showed the funds cleared.., A day
later I go back and try to withdraw 20 dollars for gas and the
screen read "insufficient funds". So I called customer
service and had it out with the operator after I proved to her
that the bank was wrong,( they tried to tell me that it wasn't
past the ten days that out of state checks need to clear-my
question was why would the atm and automated service tell me
the funds cleared then?) but they still did nothing about it.
Granted the sum I lost was nowhere near the amount they got
you for but still, the bull they put me through and the fact
that I was late paying bills and tuition stressed me out like,
well you know exactly how I felt. I was so angry because they
were basically like "there's nothing we can do, have a
nice day, thank you for banking with wachovia...". I still
cringe when I pass by one. Anyways, when I read the story I
was like...what the?? I only wish that I could have gotten back
at them like you did. Thank you!! and keep fighting the good
fight!!! Best of luck to You and your family. Vito Caricati
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Thank
you from all who have to kowtow to Wachovia and their beauracratic
policies. My experience hasn't cost me as it has you, but an
extreme frustrating and inconvenient experience. I have been
banking with Wachovia for two years with only problems of putting
holds on my deposits occasionally and delaying deposits made
on Friday till Monday at midnight. Yesterday was different.
I received a check from my retirement account with TD Ameritrade
pay to the order of GET Video, LLC attn; Gary Todd. I am a sole
proprietor of my one man company for tax reasons and I do not
require a business license. So I set up my retirement account
this way for tax purposes. They would not cash my check because
it was made out to GET Video, LLC even though it had my name
on it. Even my drivers license as proof of identity would not
suffice. They said I needed a business license as proof or set
up a separate account as GET Video, LLC with a business license
as proof. Bottom line, I have tree direct deposits to my account,
so it would be very inconvenient to change these for this purpose.
To maintain a separate account with GET Video, LLC just to cash
checks would not be cost conducive. And again, I do not require
a license, so how would I be able to furnish a license as proof
when I have no possible way of retaining one. So I had to notify
TD Ameritrade to cancel this check costing me $25 and to reissue
another pay to order of Gary Todd only. And it's all about new
Homeland Security precautions, and their ineptitude to use their
common sense in certain situations. Steve, we're just victims
of the corporate giant and it's lack of concern of it's customers
who made them a corporate giant. I'd change banks, but I seriously
doubt if they are anymore competent than Wachovia. I feel your
frustration man. As I've said before, the terrorists have already
won, when our freedoms have been compromised as a result of
safety precautions installed to protect corporations and their
assets. Good luck Steve with your fight. Don't quit!!!! G. Todd
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Hi
there Steve, I read your story in the St. Pete. Times about
your problem with Wachovia Bank. I just wanted you to know that
you are not the only one they let slip through the cracks. I
used to bank with Southtrust until Wachovia bought them out,
I NEVER had problems with Southtrust. I started using a checking
account I had at another local bank more actively when I found
out about the buyout, I don't like big banks and have NEVER
had a good experience with any of them in the past, so I left
a little money in the Wachovia account and meant to close it
out at some point in the future. Well, not long after the buyout
took place, I realized that I had some checks about to get sent
out because I had previously set them up for a future automatic
date online....yes this was my fault, I admit it, but I chose
to immediately call them and see if I could get them stopped
as they were to go out the next day and the online system wouldn't
let me stop them from being processed and sent. When I called
I was told that they could take care of it for me and stop the
checks from going out. I asked the lady several times, "Do
I need to put any money in the account because I don't want
to incur charges and I don't have enough in the account to cover
those checks", she assured me it would be ok and that I
wouldn't need to put money in the account, that the checks were
not going out at all. Well, she/they lied, I got charged by
Wachovia for overdraft fees, returned check fees....I also incurred
fees from the City of St. Pete. and Florida Progress for returned
check fees...it ended up costing me more than the original 2
bills combined. Needless to say, I to this day have not paid
them and they have attorneys calling me all the time, I told
them I was not paying, they could put it on my credit report,
but I was standing by my prinicples. No one ever called me back,
I called them 3 times afer it happened to discuss it with someone
and every time I was put on an endless hold, one time I waited
for an hour and 20 minutes and no one ever came back on the
line. I really think something fishy is up over at Wachovia
and I tell everyone I know or run into not to bank with them!
I completely understand that I set these checks up myself to
go out, but I did call to see what I could do and I offered
to go and put money into the account and they said they would
take care of things for me, I trusted them to work with me,
after all, I tried to work with them by calling in the first
place so many times. I've come to realize that they just don't
care, I see them as the "abusive bank" of the banking
world. I also wonder if this should lead to an investigation
by the governement, after all, aren't they scamming' people
to get their money?! I had a feeling I wasn't the only one,
I figured they had to have done this crap to someone else too,
and I was right. Hopefully they get bought out by a better company
who will do some 'clean-up' over there, they got me thinking
I could run a better bank. Not sure there's much we can do being
the little guys and all, but at least you know you are NOT alone
in your feelings toward Wachovia! Take care! Kimberly K. St.
Pete., Florida WACHOVIA BANK SUCKS!!!
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Hi,
I haven't had problems with Wachovia but respect and support
what you are doing. Another cost to you because of this, is
that your credit report will show late payments on the checks
that bounced. A lot of banks feel totally justified in lining
their pockets by charging their customers ridiculous fees, when
THEY benefit from holding checks. Jane
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Wholeheartedly
agree with your position on Wachovia. Have never given them
a chance to mishandle my assets. Now Wachovia is poised to take
over World Savings where I have CDs. I have told World Savings
that I will cash out immediately when this wretched Wachovia
takes over! Good Luck with your quest for justice. s/Richard
Nolte
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As
promised, some of the stories found on the net.. These stories have
been copied, WITHOUT CHANGES from various web sources I have found.
Some have so many complaints, that I simply included a link to the
blog or bbs where the stories reside. If you spend some time (several
hours) you will find as I did that my story is far from unique.
WAKE UP WACHOVIA, A REVOLUTION IS STARTING!!! |
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Googled
"Wachovia Complaints" and came up with an entire page
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Tuesday,
August 22, 2006
Wachovia SUCKS!!!
Yes,
I said it. Wachovia Bank Sucks!
How
can I make this statement you might ask? Well, being an account
holder since 1998, I can honestly say that since their merger with
First Union, they SUCK. They take money from your account and then
expect you to know where it went. They can show the deposit going
in ... look at your withdrawls (both checks and bank card) but not
show where the deductions went and leave it up to you to pay them
$65 an hour to find errors that they made. You can use accounting
programs (Quicken, Quickbooks, etc), accountants, do your own perfect
monthly reconcilations BUT .. they will still lose your money and
tell you it's your loss since their system doesn't show where it
went.
Think
I'm wrong here? NOPE .. they've done this to me 3 times ... and
actually had me convinced that even though I can manage 2 accounts
at a lawfirm without a single descrepency - that the error was on
my end. they convinced me sooo well that I went and purchased the
same accounting program I use at the office that has had ZERO errors
for my personal use and you know what?? There is still mess ups
.... MAJOR Ones - this time, they LOST $285 of my money. Last Year
this time, they lost another $200+, the year before? same thing
... but it's my accounting/mathematics, etc ... their excuse last
time?? Even though I deduct every penny (even their stupid fees)
that come out of my account, since they hit the system at different
times, it's my fault.
Explain
this one to me. I deposit X amount of dollars. I deduct Y amount
of dollars. According to my accounting program and my math, I'm
left with +XYZ amounts but their figures shows -abc amount. How
in the hell is this possible?? If I deposit $100 and deduct $50,
I still have $50, right? Not according to WACHOVIA standards ....
they have different mathematical equations that you and I do ..
hell, theirs is even different from any accounting program on the
market .... can anyone out there tell me how in the hell this is
possible and better yet .. who in the hell to report this to so
that they dont' STEAL anyone else's money again???
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Wachovia
Sucks < intelmind > 02/01
Has
anyone been ripped off by Wachovia with NSF fees, unavailable funds
fees, etc. I and others have experienced many conflicts with them
and have ended up having them refund these fees because they illegally
charged them in the first place. They seem to make their $ by charging
us these fees and bank on us not noticing or keeping track. I've
seen other complaints of a similar nature, to the T, and I'm wondering
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From
a bulletin board service that I subscribe to:
9/29: Wachovia is the worst
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Wachovia sucks. They have always sucked and they suck even more
today. They made my account go negative. I had $1 in my account
(I get paid tomorrow). They decided they were going to charge me
a $50 annual fee for having a mutual fund with them. This is a ne
thing.... supposedly they sent me inserts with my statements, but
who the hell reads those (not me!) . I guess I will start. Anyway,
WHY would you take an annual fe out of an account on a random day
like the 29th of the month when the last day is the 30th?? I get
paid on the 30th WAIT TIL THE 30th idiot people!!! But no, they
had to do it ONE day before the last day of the month. Then they
go and charge $30 overdraft fee. That is $80 for this crap. I was
so pissed. My friend at work called them and pretended to be me
and got it taken care of, I was too pissed to call. So it is fine
now and I am going to re-start my day!!!!!! Good morning everyone!!!
:-)
9/29: I don't work for Wach, but this is sort of in my field. Did
they refund the NSF fee? It was not a "they" that decided
to run this on a random day like the 29th. It is their "system"
that way. You need to find out who at Wach is the officer on your
account. This should be an individual, usually an officer of the
bank that is assigned to each account. This would be a good person
to get to know. (Be nice even if you don't want to be...it works.)
They are the "voice of reason", or should be, between
you and the "system". If they are not, than I would find
a new bank.
Also, I would look into a mutual fund that does
not have an annual fee.
9/29:
ugh...i agree, Wachovia sucks big time! when jim and i moved from
S. Carolina back here to Ohio, we closed the account we had with
Wachovia. when we got internet hooked up, Jim decided to see if
he could access the account online and come to find out, the account
was still OPEN with a negative balance. wtf? so jim called and asked
them why theyre still taking money (that wasnt in there cause we
"closed" the account) and charging us overdraft fees (there
were like 4 charges ) it took over a week and lots of daily phone
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Friday,
July 15, 2005
Wachovia Bank SUCKS
After 10 years of banking with Wachovia, I realize how bad Wachovia
sucks. No branches west of Texas. Can you believe that, even after
doing all those mergers and all those acquisitions they are still
an east coast bank! Now, I have to sell my soul to Bank of America.
The long bond of customer loyalty has been broken, I think.
Wachovia,
I "walk all ova ya"!
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From
SCGirl
wachovia sucks 13-Jul-06 03:13 pm i have to get this out
i know how to budget my money i know how to use a register to keep
track so i know that it is wachovia with there check card holds
and money clears at this time not that time i am pulling all my
money out of wachovia and doing it the old fashion way like when
the husband and i first started i am buying money orders for eveything
and thats thats !!!!!!i know i cant be the only person that this
is happening to, i have several friends that say the same one of
the guys i work with wont use a bank for anything except to cash
his check then he gets money orders.
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Wednesday,
February 08, 2006
Wachovia SUCKS!
So
lately since Southtrust Bank was taken over by Wachovia I have had
nothing but problems. I continually get attacked with $10.00 overdraft
protection fees for overdrafts under a 1.00. I mean come on, they're
going to take $11.00 out of my savings and put it in my checking
account to cover the say $.93 cent overdraft and their $10.00 fee.
My most recent hassle took place over an ATM transaction. I went
to a Wachovia to withdraw 100.00 but when it came time to dispense
the cash I get a message saying cannot process at this time. I tried
again, this time $60.00, same message. I ended up having to go to
an AmSouth to get the $100.00 and was charged a $2.50 fee. I get
home to find out that it's showing $160.00 missing from my account.
I immediately called Wachovia and they placed a dispute. Did they
refund the money to my account? No! That night after I placed the
call I transferred $160.00 from my savings to cover the $160.00
until they figured it out. In the process a transaction I had made
was now considered overdrawn so they moved money to my account and
slapped me with a fee. I called and they refused to refund the fee,
even though they screwed up. I detailed the explanation of how had
I originally got my $100.00 I would have had more than enough to
cover the transaction. Still refused to give me the fee back. I've
decided that enough is enough and I'm switching banks.
Today
though I read in the Tampa Tribune about a group of nuns whose account
was frozen under the Patriot Act because they didn't have a social
security number or picture ID on file. Which bank did the freezing?
None other than Wachovia.!
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I
did a search on Google for Angie McGuirt of Wachovia and found this
site. Wachovia sucks as well my friend! I got a letter from Wachovia
from Ms. McGuirt wanting my mortgage. However, with all the nickle
and diming that Wachovia does - Ms. McGuirt can take the offer and...
well... you get the visual. It makes no business sense to rip off
your customers with outrageous fees. For examply, I accidently overcharged
my account by $3.21 and I got slammed with a $30 fee. Like they
cannot "float" me $3.21. Geesh... I keep a nice sized
balance usually but still - things happen. I was with Coastal Federal
Credit Union and I am going to switch back. They at least have their
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I
received this email from "J" yesturday afternoon, and
promised that I would not protect his identity for reasons that
are explained below. A huge thanks to Mr. "J" for confirming
what I have suspected all along. If this does not convince you to
take your banking and other business to another organization, then
nothing will. Join the fight and move your accounts from Wachovia
Bank, N.A. or this could be a story that you are telling also.
Mr. "J" writes:
I know that other banks
are guilty of the same actions. We can’t single out Wachovia
although I understand and agree with you. I’ve seen it happen
to people on many occasions and had authority to reimburse folks
when this happened. I’ve heard that the protocol has changed
and branch authority has been removed for the most part. It’s
not really a personal bank anymore.
Anyway,
my wife works for the bank in a different capacity as a 100% commission
employee. She needs to produce in order to get paid. The more business
she does, the more she earns. If she does not produce anything,
she gets no money and will owe the bank money because they give
her a small draw. She became ill and took a 30 day leave of absence
to get better. During her sick time, her managers asked her to schedule
closings, call clients and gather documents to help out the pipeline
she had. Her managers told her that she should help because she
was the one getting paid for this business, not the manager. That
comment was very unprofessional. During her sick time, my wife ended
up doing quite a bit of business anyway and worked from home to
make sure that her clients were taken care of. When she returned
to work recently, she was told by payroll and HR that she would
not receive any of the commission she earned while she was ill even
though she worked hard for the bank. We’ve consulted an attorney
and are pursuing this matter and look to have this settled before
too much longer. It has left such a terrible taste in our mouths
and we can’t believe the lack of professionalism that certain
people have in this organization. We hope that you will find justice
and that your account be adjusted for any wrong doing. Good luck!
Respectfully,
J |
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"They
screwed me for lots of money", Gamaliel from Tampa via email |
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"I
used to work for them, and they do suck!", Patron from Bucs Game |
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"I
agree, Wachovia Sucks", Candy from Port Richey |
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information presented here is both actual facts and personal opinion
of the author of this site, Stephen Woodin. The purpose of this
site is to inform & educate as to the policies and possible
treatment to anyone who banks with Wachovia Bank, N.A. If the facts
listed above can happen to me, a BUSINESS customer with deposits
of over $5000 per month or more for more than 6 years, then it CAN
happen to you! Regardless of what they claim, their treatment of
customers is the worst I have ever seen. |
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